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Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Why People Won't Join Your Service Club - And How To Fix It
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
The Crisis Killing Service Organizations - And How to Save Them
Rotary clubs, Lions International, Chambers of Commerce, and countless other service organizations are dying. Membership is aging out, younger generations aren't joining, and traditional models that worked for decades are failing spectacularly.
In this eye-opening episode of Rooted in Revenue, host Susan Finch and guest Miguel de Jesus tackle this crisis head-on. Miguel, a seasoned executive who went from East Harlem public housing to building $2B in revenue at Paychex, brings decades of organizational leadership experience. Susan, running a nonprofit in Oregon while watching service organizations struggle, offers frontline perspective on what's not working.
Together, they dissect why Monday noon meetings don't attract busy professionals anymore, how ego-driven leadership kills organizations just like it kills companies, and why value propositions matter more than tradition. But this isn't just about problems - it's about solutions.
Discover how to reach students before they graduate, why "actionists beat activists" with younger generations, and how organizations can adapt their models without losing their mission. Whether you're leading a Rotary club, Chamber of Commerce, or any community organization, this conversation offers a roadmap for survival and growth.
The future of community service depends on leaders willing to evolve. Are you ready to adapt?
6 Key Points
Traditional Models Failing - Monday noon meetings and old networking styles are driving away modern professionals and younger generations
Value Proposition Crisis - Service organizations can't answer "what's in it for me?" beyond giving opportunities that don't resonate with everyone
Student Engagement Opportunity - Reaching college and high school students creates future members but requires new approaches and connections
Actionists Over Activists - Younger generations want hands-on, tangible impact projects rather than traditional meeting-heavy service models
Leadership Adaptation Required - Organizations need strategic thinking, not just tactical fixes, to survive the membership crisis
Community Connection Missing - Modern mobility and lack of traditional community structures require intentional relationship-building approaches
Miguel de Jesús: Miguel de Jesús transformed from growing up in East Harlem public housing to becoming a powerhouse business executive. His strong family foundation and early discipline through music and sports provided the launching pad for extraordinary career success.
After attending Long Island University and Columbia's MBA program, Miguel joined Xerox and rapidly advanced through executive roles. At Paychex, he helped grow the company from $40 million to over $2 billion in revenue while leading 1,500+ team members.
Today, Miguel is a sought-after business coach, keynote speaker, and trainer specializing in emotional intelligence and AI-influenced business practices. He serves military special operations personnel transitioning to civilian careers through the Honor Foundation and recently completed five years as Director of Business Development at Cal State University San Marcos.
His core values—compassion, competence, achievement, and helping others—drive everything he does as he teaches leaders how to lead with both humility and results.

Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Updated Chamber Systems and Technology Strengthens Member Businesses
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Terry Hopkins | President & CEO, Grants Pass Chamber of Commerce:
Grants Pass native Terry Hopkins has returned to his roots after a diverse hospitality career across five states. With over 25 years of business ownership and management experience in Southern Oregon, Terry recently spent 5 years as a business advocate with the Oregon Restaurant & Lodging Association. Married for 20+ years with two sons, Terry is passionate about community service, having served on numerous Chamber and city committees. He's excited to join the Grants Pass & Josephine County Chamber of Commerce team to advocate for local businesses and enhance community development.
thopkins@grantspasschamber.org | 541-956-4100

Tuesday Jul 09, 2024
Does your local community know what you do?
Tuesday Jul 09, 2024
Tuesday Jul 09, 2024
Susan continues her conversation with Pyper and Jarrod, the creative duo behind Joyride Jewelry. This episode delves into the crucial topic of building community, especially for artists and small business owners who have transitioned to a new location or shifted their business model.
Pyper and Jarrod share their experiences of moving to a small town and navigating the challenges of maintaining connections in an online business world. They discuss the importance of balancing work and community engagement and explore innovative ways to network and collaborate with other artists and local businesses.
This episode offers valuable insights for entrepreneurs looking to establish roots in a new community while managing a thriving online presence. Don't miss out on the practical advice and inspiring stories these talented artisans share. Plus, listeners are treated to an exclusive discount code for Joyride Jewelry!
Tune in for an engaging discussion on community building, artistic collaboration, and the evolving landscape of small business ownership in today's interconnected world.
Links from this episode:
https://joyridejewelry.com (discount code: SFS)
Listen to the first half of this conversation here.
Getting Your Hands Dirty: The Value of an In-Person Community and "Peopling"

Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Getting Your Hands Dirty: The Value of an In-Person Community and "Peopling"
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Are you a service business looking to grow your presence in your local community? In this episode of Rooted in Revenue, hosts Lany Sullivan and Susan Finch explore the power of in-person community building for both personal and business growth.
Lany shares her experience with the Art in the Garden event, showcasing how community involvement can open doors to unexpected opportunities and relationships. The duo emphasizes the importance of showing up consistently, being vulnerable, and participating in events and groups aligned with your interests.
This episode will inspire you to focus on "peopling" - connecting with others in your community face-to-face. Lany and Susan offer practical advice on joining local organizations like the Chamber of Commerce and Rotary Club, and the benefits of serving on nonprofit boards.
Discover how building a strong foundation of community relationships can support your personal and professional growth. Learn why showing up authentically and helping others can lead to a thriving, connected business community.
Key points from this episode:
Lany emphasized the importance of showing up in person, building community, and participating as a human with other humans rather than just communicating online.
Lany got involved in a community event called Art in the Garden to promote her property for weddings and events. She connected with many people in her community through this event.
Lany and Susan discussed how participating in community activities and helping others allows unexpected conversations and connections. It breaks down walls between people.
Lany built her community roots by joining the Chamber of Commerce and Rotary Club and serving on seven nonprofit boards when she first moved to Grants Pass. This laid the foundation for strong community relationships.
Susan encouraged people to find groups and activities aligned with their interests, whether hiking, antiquing, gardening, etc. Showing up consistently builds community.
Lany advised that when getting involved in community groups, be yourself, show up, and be willing to be vulnerable. Most groups are welcoming to new people.
Susan challenged listeners to be present, do some "peopling," and focus on in-person connecting rather than just online networking.